kerravonsen: Tony Stark reclined with his hand over his face (Tony-Stark-hates-mornings)

In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, there are two special categories of character for whom the normal rules do not apply. I don't know if this also applies to the Marvel comics, but I've certainly seen it in the movies. I call them the "Favoured" and the "Disfavoured" characters.

A Favoured character can do no wrong.

I don't mean that they don't do anything wrong, I mean that the wrong things (or mistakes) they do are dismissed, ignored, rationalised, or made out to be good things.

A Disfavoured character can do no right.

It isn't that they never do anything right, but every single wrong thing (or mistake) they have ever done is thrown in their faces forever, and the right things they do are dismissed, ignored, rationalised, or made out to be bad things. They are everyone's favourite scapegoat, also.

Signs of a Favoured Character )

Signs of a Disfavoured Character )

When you have a Favoured character interacting with a Disfavoured character, because of these biases, every Favoured character comes across as a flaming hypocrite. Which means that the writers who are desperately trying to enforce the view that their Favoured characters are spotless heroes, have done the exact opposite of what they intended. Ooops.

I would even go so far as to say that out of Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Thor, and Loki, the only mature, responsible adult is... Tony Stark. He's the only one of the four who actually takes responsibility for his actions, and not only for his actions, but for his inaction. Steve Rogers seems to think that because he meant well, he can't be blamed for the harm he caused. Thor has a similar attitude. Guess what? Tony Stark meant well, too; he meant to protect American soldiers. And what does he do when he discovers that harm came of it? He tries to make amends. Steve Rogers doesn't. Thor doesn't. Loki is a wild mixture of blaming other people for his problems, trying to fix his mistakes, and trying to fix other people's mistakes, badly. Interestingly enough, both Tony Stark and Loki were betrayed by people they considered family. But Tony had support (Yinsen, Pepper) and Loki had absolutely nobody.

kerravonsen: Thor with animated lightning, black and white (Thor)

Yes, a post which is not about ice cream! I feel like rambling on about "Thor: Love and Thunder" as I finally saw it recently. But being me, I'm likely to wander off into worldbuilding thoughts as well as more direct topics.

(And there are spoilers in the following.)

things I liked )

things that were annoying )

things that made me cross )

rambling )

Of course many things are not spelled out, because in a movie there isn't time to go into details. Which means one has to deduce and infer and tease out tiny little details and then weigh how significant they actually are. But then, that's what fans do.

Daredevil

Nov. 15th, 2022 09:38 am
kerravonsen: Servalan and red flower (Servalan)
I'm gradually catching up on some tv/movie things. This time I thought I'd tackle Daredevil, the TV series.

(yes, actually, I think that random icon is fitting)

Daredevil has proven me wrong. I used to say that if one likes the characters, everything else doesn't matter. In Daredevil, I like the characters. I love Matt and Foggy and their friendship, that is so key. I like Karen Paige. I find the relationship between Wilson Fisk and Vanessa to be fascinatingly disturbing. BUT...

I watched the first five episodes of Season 1. And then I skipped to the last episode of Season 1, and I felt as if I hadn't missed much. Or, at least, what I'd missed was not something I missed.

Because I love the characters, but it is too grimdark for me. Relentless in its brutality, heartache and loss after loss after loss. Where all the victories on either side are too close to pyrrhic victories, to make one wonder again and again if the price is worth it.

But at least now I've seen enough to be able to appreciate Daredevil much more when he makes an appearance elsewhere. (Including in Avengers fanfic!) So it wasn't a waste of time. But I'm not going to watch more of it, not when I feel I have to brace myself before watching; that's not something I find desirable in my entertainment.

(Note: there is something really wierd going on with the date-time on Dreamwidth. When I do "update date" it gives a time which is UTC, not the time in my timezone.)
kerravonsen: Avon: I see stupid people (I-see-stupid-people)
I've been re-reading a Marvel fanfic where Our Heroine gets superpowers based on her profession (and personality). And I've been pondering what kind of superpower I would get in that situation.

Being a computer programmer, one would think some sort of technomancy or technopathy would be the thing, but I don't think that fits me. It's not that I'm more interested in machines than people. It's that I want to create things that are useful to people; and also as part of that, I want to know, precisely, what the problem is that I'm solving.

With the latter, that gives me one idea for a superpower: compelling the people around me to say what they mean, accurately. Clarity of communication; clarity being the key word here. Possibly clarity of mind, also. Not a power which compels people to tell the truth, no, not exactly. But it prevents them from being vague and muddleheaded. Possibly an area effect that one can't turn off, which would be rather... interesting.
A possible secondary power might be the dispelling of illusions.
(And a silly one -- when I'm drunk/drugged, everyone around me starts speaking in haiku or other kind of poetry. Because poetry is concentrated meaning.)

On the "creating things which are useful" -- whether that be tech or craft -- I'm not sure what kind of superpower that would be affiliated with. Except maybe making things out of nothing? Or sculpting things with one's bare hands? Transmogrification?

What are your thoughts, people?
What kind of superpowers would you have?
kerravonsen: Paradise Farm, Queenstown, New Zealand (Paradise)

Just started watching "Moon Knight". (yeah, yeah, late as usual.) Interesting show.

And there's a line from the first episode which has stuck in my head.

(about the goddess Ammit) "She grew weary of having to wait for sinners to commit their crime before punishing them. Would you wait to weed a garden till after the roses were dead?"

Would you wait to weed a garden till after the roses were dead?

That's pretty profound. Flawed, but profound. Because of course most people would say, "No, you wouldn't wait; you would weed the garden to protect the roses." BUT... )

kerravonsen: Tony Stark pointing his finger with an incredulous expression (Tony-Stark-thinks-youre-nuts)

The more I ponder "Avengers: Age of Ultron", the more it feels like an escapee from a Mirror Universe. Sure, the Doylist explanation is that it was directed by Joss Wheadon, who would consider himself a coward if he didn't destroy continuity, but I have no ideas about what a Watsonian explanation for this would be.

rambly spoilery discussion )

kerravonsen: Thor with animated lightning, black and white (Thor)

(don't have a Black Panther icon, so I'm using Thor.)

So, I've watched The Black Panther now. It was okay, but there were points where I was bored and wondered whether I should continue watching. I think it was because none of the characters really clicked with me. I mean, they were okay, the nice ones were nice, the bad ones were bad, and so on. But none of them grabbed me by the heart.

here be spoilers, because I'm considerate like that )

kerravonsen: Tony Stark 3/4 face (Tony-Stark)
The Marvel Trumps Hate auction is live. Bid on me for charity and I will make you stealth-fannish Marvel-themed jewellery!
Here is my auction listing
Auction ends on Saturday, or is it Sunday?

BID FOR CHARITY.
kerravonsen: Jack O'Neill holding a gun: "security blanket" (Jack-gun)

Yes, I am watching these all in the wrong order, very late. That's pretty standard for my Marvel watching. I was spoiled for the spoilery thing, but I'm glad that I listened to the people who told me it was worth watching, because it was worth watching, because there was a lot more going on than just the spoilery thing. And I am in great admiration for the way they handled the thematic structure in this one.

I'm assuming you've already seen the movie )

kerravonsen: Liberator orbiting planet: One true ship (one-true-ship)

A band of rebels fighting against the evil Federation:

  • The alien spaceship "Avenger", run by the artificial intelligence Jar-Vis.
  • Steve Rogers - political activist and legend, he supposedly died seventy years ago, but was found, resurrected, mind-wiped, caught at a political rally (where the protesters were massacred), framed for child-molestation, and sentenced to Transportation to Cygnus Alpha.
  • Tony Stark - businessman, engineer, computer tech, convicted of embezzling billions of credits; but he was framed by his business partner, Obadiah Stane, who was the real embezzler. Stark maintains that if he'd actually wanted to steal billions of credits, he would never have been caught.
  • Bruce Banner - government experiment gone wrong, most of the time he's just a mild-mannered scientist, but if he gets angry, he turns into a raging berserker. Convicted of murdering a guard who was threatening to rape his girlfriend Betty Ross.
  • Natasha Romanov - smuggler, pirate, free trader, pilot of the infamous "Black Widow"
  • Clint Barton - co-pilot and partner of Romanov, between them there isn't any place they can't infiltrate and steal from.
  • Loki - a genderfluid alien shapeshifter, they have their own reasons for hating the Federation, but they aren't saying.

Yeah, I put Loki in the "Cally" slot rather than Thor, because IMHO he fits better. Though I suppose Sylvie would fit even better.

kerravonsen: Loki being threatened with a knife (Loki)

Loki finale! Oh my. The problem with half-truths is trying to figure out which bit is true.

spoilers at the end of time )

So... I guess we'll just have to wait for season 2.

kerravonsen: (Default)

Oh this is fascinating. I just want to bask in the process of it all coming together. This show. This show. Oh this is beautiful. Because character is plot. And also, this continues that blend of profound, portentous, mysterious, amusing, ludicrous and surprising.

spoilers ahoy )

So now I am all caught up, you can comment freely with no worries about spoilers! So tell me your thoughts!

kerravonsen: Loki being threatened with a knife (Loki)

OMG! OMG! I cried. !!! This show. This show. Wow. there be spoilers here, I'm WARNING YOU )

C'mon, please, somebody comment! Am I all alone here, like Loki?

kerravonsen: Loki being threatened with a knife (Loki)

Fascinating. In some ways it felt like a Doctor Who episode. With more swords and daggers. About a similar level of not-plans, though.

here be spoilers )

And I spent more than an hour on this anyway.

kerravonsen: Loki being threatened with a knife (Loki)

The plot thickens. I'm feeling all caught up in the excitement.

here be spoilers )

kerravonsen: Loki being threatened with a knife (Loki)

WOW. I really was not expecting it to be this good. I don't mean the setup, though that has its own farcical nightmarishness. What was unexpected was Loki's character development.

here be spoilers )

And it took me longer to write my episode reaction than it did to watch the episode. Oops.

kerravonsen: Tony Stark pointing his finger with an incredulous expression (Tony-Stark-thinks-youre-nuts)

So, I've been thinking more about the time travel in Endgame. So I made myself a little diagram. cut for images )

Yeah, this is all old hat and people all hashed it out two years ago, but I'm allowed to apply my brain, even if I am late to the party.

kerravonsen: (Default)

So I've finally seen "Avengers: Endgame". I was astonished to realise that this movie was Three Hours Long. No wonder they packed so much into it. So many feels. Even though I had already been spoiled for the major events, they still got me right there.

Read more... )

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So what is "Amnesiac Worldbuilding" and why do I want to rant about it?

We've all seen it before -- usually in TV/movie SF, though it isn't limited to that. The author needs a quick fix, either to solve a problem or to set up a situation which they need in order for the plot to work. So they toss in some technology, or instant cure, or magic, which will solve the immediate problem, and then promptly forget about it and its implications.

There isn't a good phrase to describe the phenomenon; I'm choosing "amnesiac worldbuilding" as the least-worst I could think of. Other phrases I considered: "deus-ex-machina worldbuilding", "worldbuilding without consequences", "you can do THAT and you didn't use it earlier?", "you can do THAT and you used it for something trivial?".

Read more... )


Have you got any juicy examples of "amnesiac worldbuilding" to suggest?

kerravonsen: Steampunk raygun: "R is for Raygun" (r-is-for-raygun)

We've got a bunch of heroes here, the Avengers, but they don't all see heroism in the same way.

Steve Rogers:

Read more... )

Tony Stark:

Read more... )

Bruce Banner:

Read more... )

Thor:

Read more... )

Natasha Romanov:

Read more... )

Clint Barton:

I don't actually know enough about what motivates him, really.


And a couple more, because they are interesting.

Read more... )


This analysis of the characters has a lot of interesting implications. But the thing I'm most pleased about is that I think I've finally got a handle on Steve Rogers. At least to a degree. But hey, what do you all think? Am I mistaken about all this? Can anyone fill in the gaps in what I know? PLEASE chime in! (Don't let me think I am all alone in Space with a Chitauri army in front of me...)

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