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[personal profile] kerravonsen
With no announcements, no consultation, the New Management have sneaked in a despicable change: they have eliminated Basic Accounts.

ETA Despite the fact that I have a permanent account, I'm wondering if I should leave anyway. (Won't delete the journal, just leave it sitting there) So which alternative journal place is the one that everyone seems to have alternative accounts at?

Date: 2008-03-13 08:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com
I haven't got the energy to maintain journals in more than one place, so I hope you stay on LJ>

Date: 2008-03-13 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhall1.livejournal.com
Me too.

Date: 2008-03-14 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistraltoes.livejournal.com
I don't like it either, but on what do you base this idea of "obscene profits"? Do you know how much it costs to run the business, how much the return rate on the investment is, or how much they clear in profits annually, and among how many shareholders this is divided? Furthermore, why is LJ *obligated* to pay for anyone who wants to have free service at LJ's expense? And since the change doesn't affect your account or any other existing account in any way, and all new account holders will know about the policy before they create accounts, how do you get the idea that this is a lie by omission?

You and I and likely everybody commenting in this thread are, by world-wide standards, in the wealthiest 10% of the population. Does that mean you are corrupt because you are rich? Or is your problem only with people richer than you are? Should the destitute of Asia and Africa rail about the "obscene" amount of your take-home pay? Is their poverty a result of your being an evil oppressor? Should you therefore be obligated to provide free programming to anyone who wants it, or are you entitled to a salary for your time?

Stockholders and business owners and rich people are not automatically evil. They're just like you and me. They ARE you and me. The day you tell your employer that you'll continue to work your job for free will be the day it will make any kind of logical sense for you to complain because LJ doesn't give away free accounts.

Date: 2008-03-14 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistraltoes.livejournal.com
As I said, there's a difference between "making a living" and "profit at all costs".

Exactly. And you're just making a knee-jerk reaction that this is the latter rather than the former; you have no real data either way. You don't know whether the people you're complaining about are the wicked rich, or Abraham making a living. That's bigotry, plain and simple.

And BTW, my being a Libertarian has *nothing* to do with it. I'm as opposed to the powerful exploiting the poor as you are. I just don't automatically assume every businessman is out to do that, or that every rise in costs is due to greed, rather than to the rising costs of providing the product. The costs of goods and services are going up drastically in the US right now; it would be remarkable if LJ didn't have to find some way to generate more revenue in order to continue existing.

Date: 2008-03-13 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalquessa.livejournal.com
Me threeee!

Date: 2008-03-13 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] izhilzha.livejournal.com
I'm with [livejournal.com profile] watervole; I don't have the time or energy to even think about transferring, so...if fandom (or my flist) depart, I'll just slowly vanish into the distance.

(why, yes, I am feeling overly DRAMATIC today, why do you ask? *g*)

Date: 2008-03-13 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com
Psst. You want that we should talk tonight?

Date: 2008-03-13 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] izhilzha.livejournal.com
Um, well....I'm having dinner with [livejournal.com profile] ladybrick and then going to someone's house to watch LOST, but there might be 45 minutes of free time in-between. Email me?

(sorry about the thread highjack, Kat.)

Date: 2008-03-13 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalquessa.livejournal.com
Seriously, what's not to be dramatic about? *clings to LJ friends* Do not desert meee!

Date: 2008-03-13 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] temeres.livejournal.com
FWIG, this applies only to new accounts created after March 12th, so existing basic accounts (like mine) are safe ... for the moment. Not that that makes the change any less infuriating.

Date: 2008-03-14 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] temeres.livejournal.com
If they do kill basic accounts then I'll have to disappear, since I can't see how I'd be able to pay. As well as having No Car and No Telly, I also have No Credit Card.

Date: 2008-03-14 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] temeres.livejournal.com
That wouldn't personally bother me overmuch. Annoying, but not to the point of driving me away.

Date: 2008-03-15 05:14 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jomacmouse.livejournal.com
Do you have a debit card? I know not all of them can be used in the same way as a credit card, and you may not feel like paying for an LJ account anyway...

Date: 2008-03-13 10:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hawkeye7.livejournal.com
I feel the same way.

I homesteaded GreatestJournal during the last brouhaha. However, I haven't used it. I couldn't even remember the password when I went to check it a moment ago. (But it's the same as the LJ one.)

Date: 2008-03-13 11:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sinanju.livejournal.com
True, but...

a) using Firefox and Adblocker Plus, I say, "what ads?"

b) The Powers That Be (Squeaky) behind InsaneJournal seem to be friendly, helpful, communicative and reasonably skillful at actually, you know, running the system within minimal problems. He (she? I don't know) had to upgrade to bigger servers after the massive flood of immigrants from GJ and LJ and it went remarkably well.

Date: 2008-03-14 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com
I think it stinks too. I hope I don't have to set up any more comms. :-P

However I'm staying because my friends are here. I have a GJ I've never used but I heard that they've reneged on their icon space and other things.

Date: 2008-03-14 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wneleh.livejournal.com
Hmm.... I'm seeing the rage, but I'm not feeling it.

But I started at plus, and went paid when I found the ads offensive (in several senses of the word.)

I don't have journaling accounts anywhere else.

Date: 2008-03-14 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tptigger.livejournal.com
Everyone on my FL who jumped ship thus far has jumped ship somewhere else.

I hadn't even thought of ads on comms now. Argh! (At least with a paid account I'll never see them, but it's the principal of the thing.)

Date: 2008-03-14 05:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] infiniteviking
..erwhat?? *stares in consternation*

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