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Ever since I discovered the amazing knitting with scales done by Crafty Mutt, I've wanted to do it with crochet or loom-knitting, since I don't needle-knit. I looked in vain for a similar crochet tutorial as to the knit tutorial, but all I could find were these Etsy instructions that you had to pay for. And nothing about loom-knitting. (Yesterday, after I had already done my first experiment with loom-knit scales, I found this video about crocheting scales done by someone else. Timing, huh?)

But I have figured it out, all on my lonesome!

Look!

loomscales
This was my 6th attempt.
Done on: AKB Sock Loom 2
Yarn: Bendigo Woollen Mills Murano "8-ply" purples
Scales: TRL small Aluminium scales, small black plastic scales.

How is it done? No, I'm afraid I don't have a video or a photo-tutorial for you. I'll just have to describe it.

1. Cast on however you like.
2. Do a few rows of rib stitch (KPKPKP...) (I did three in my sample). This is just to have a bit of an edge so that the scales don't dig into you. You can skip this it you like.
3. Do a row of your favoured knit stitch. I did e-wraps.
4. The First Scales Row!
I was doing this in the round, and I did half a round of non-scales and then half a round of scales.
a) Half a round of knit stitch.
5. The First Scale!
a) Start a traditional knit stitch: that is, hold the working yarn above the yarn which is on the peg, stick the pick up through the peg-yarn, and pull the working yarn down through the peg-yarn, making a loop.
b) Pull on the loop to make it longer.
c) Take a small scale and thread it onto the loop. That is, pinch the loop between your fingers so there's just a bit of it sticking out (as if it were folded piece of string) and poke that bit through the hole in the scale, then pull it through. If you prefer, you can thread the scale onto a crochet hook, and pull the loop through the hole in the scale with the crochet hook. Make sure that the convex side of the scale is facing towards you when you do this.
d) Push the scale down towards the pegs
e) Lift the stitch off the peg as you would with a traditional knit stitch. Lift it high enough that the scale is above the peg.
f) Move the scale behind the peg, and shove it into the gap between the knitting and the board. This is so that the scale will now be at the front of your work, not dangling somewhere in the back or sideways. This part can be tricky on a rectangular sock loom when you are on the corner, but you can use the pick to help you push it back and down.
g) Put the dangling loop over the empty peg.
h) Pull on the working yarn to make the loop snug.
i) E-wrap the peg (the same peg) and knit off. This extra stitch is so that the scale will have a little more wiggle-room and thus lay flat, instead of sticking up like a porcupine. If you want it to stick up like a porcupine, omit this step.
6. The Next Peg.
E-wrap the next peg and knit off.
7. Repeat steps 5 and 6 to the end of the row.
8. Do a round of your favoured knit stitch.
9. The Second Scales Row.
This adds scales the same way as above, but offset by one. That is, on an even-numbered scales-row, you add scales to even-numbered pegs and on odd-numbered scales-rows, you add scales to odd-numbered pegs.

That's about it.

It isn't perfect; there's a bit of a gap between some of the scales and they do wiggle a bit; I thought the wiggling was better than the porcupine. The gaps are probably a combination of the wiggling, and the fact that the gauge of a loom is fixed, and this loom is possibly just a teeny bit too big for the small scales. I certainly wasn't going to try this on my "Knifty-Knitter"-style looms, they would be way too big. They might be okay with large scales, though. Dunno.
I stuck with trying the loom-knitting instead of the crochet idea because I want to make scaled arm-warmers/bracers, and knitting is more elastic than crochet, and thus would stay on my arm better.

Date: 2014-10-09 05:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] watervole
I've never seen anything like that before. Fascinating.

Date: 2014-10-09 09:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dragonfly
VERY cool.

Date: 2014-10-09 09:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrs_sweetpeach
This is most impressive. And the scales are just too cool for words.

Date: 2014-10-10 10:03 am (UTC)
vilakins: Vila with stars superimposed (knitting)
From: [personal profile] vilakins
Very cool! I've never heard of that before. Where do you get the scales?

Date: 2014-10-10 10:21 pm (UTC)
vilakins: Vila with stars superimposed (parker cool)
From: [personal profile] vilakins
They're in the US? What are their freight charges like? I'd like to have a go at making a necklace. I'll have to look around for patterns.

Date: 2014-10-12 09:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vilakins

Thank you so much! I think the Aussie Maille scales might be different from the Ring Lord ones as they have uncoloured edges. I also got distracted by looking for patterns for necklaces and bracelets. I'll have to figure out what I want to make and what colours I want before I order anything, but that's incredibly helpful! [bookmarks]

Nico

On 11 October 2014 13:42, kerravonsen - DW Comment dw_null@dreamwidth.org wrote:

Date: 2014-10-09 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dozmuffinxc.livejournal.com
Ooh, fun!! I've been meaning to try out the scale knitting. I wanted to have something done for the RenFaire, but it definitely doesn't look like that's going to happen.

Date: 2014-10-09 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaxomsride.livejournal.com
That looks great for a first attempt.
I am coming to the conclusion that You Tube is The place to go to for learning crafty stuff. REeading instructions are all very well but actually watching how something is done is far more instructional.

Having jumped on the loom band wagon I'm looking at your sock loom thing and thinking - so I can use the loom to crochet too!

Date: 2014-10-11 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaxomsride.livejournal.com
No, you didn't say that it just hit me that the sock loom is similar to the loom band loom I have.

Date: 2014-10-09 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vjezkova.livejournal.com
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!*Thud*

Date: 2014-10-09 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vjezkova.livejournal.com
:-) You know me...Thanks!!!:-)

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