"Partners in Crime" reactions to reactions
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kerravonsenIt's interesting that my pattern with watching Doctor Who seems to be
1. watch and squee
2. think a bit and read other people's reactions
3. notice all the flaws and get all sad/annoyed
My flist has made a few observations...
*That the Science Reporter was a Person of Colour and that this shows that RTD is racist, because she was cross at the Doctor and Donna at the end, and she was played for comedy, and she "wasn't good enough to be a companion".
I'm not really sure how to react to that.
- they're reading too much into it, she was actually a good character
- no matter what anyone says, RTD isn't going to change or learn from his mistakes, well, not unless someone very close to him calls him on it
- it's a possible interpretation, but I'd rather look on the bright side.
*That RTD is prejudiced against fat people.
Well, of course. Our entire society is prejudiced against fat people. If they can't pick on blacks, women, gays or disabled people, who's left? Fat people, and religious people.
Can anyone tell me if there's ever been a positive portrayal of religion in Doctor Who? Or of a fat person?
I can only think of two:
- K'an Po and his mystic Buddhism in "Planet of the Spiders"
- Foon and her husband in "Voyage of the Damned", but note that they were being ostracised by the other passengers, and I don't think it was just because they had won the voyage as a prize.
*That RTD hates mothers, Donna's mother being an example, Jackie being another.
Well, the main thing I noticed was how similar Donna and her mother were.
*That Donna's grandfather was the newspaper-seller in "Voyage of the Damned"
I hadn't noticed that. I'm not sure whether they're supposed to be the same character or not.
*That maybe the Rose we saw is Evil.
I doubt it. Rose looks sad, not evil. And they would never do that to RTD's Mary Sue.
*That the batshippers are going to be making this season All About Rose, and that Donna will leave.
I hope not. Though it's a reasonable point that it could be difficult to get Catherine Tate for more than one season. Though if next year is only going to be a few specials, they might have her for that, or they might do one-off holding-pattern ones like the last couple of Christmas Specials have been.
And I really don't care what the loony fringe of fandom thinks.
A few more observations:
- the Doctor tossed the sonic pen into a trash bin; someone could find it. I was actually expecting Donna to go back and fish it out of the bin, but she didn't. 8-(
- so, will Donna's mother find the car keys?
- I'm glad that Donna's grandfather knows where she's gone.
- "The Shadow Proclamation" appears to be a group of persons rather than a document. Hmmm. This is the second or third mention of "The Shadow Proclamation", the first being in "Rose", and I'm not sure if there was a mention by Rose in "The Christmas Invasion".
- mysterious!vanishing!Rose is probably only going to turn up in episodes set on present-day Earth. So no Rose next week.
- I wonder if they're going to bring up the Bad Wolf stuff in connection with Rose?
1. watch and squee
2. think a bit and read other people's reactions
3. notice all the flaws and get all sad/annoyed
My flist has made a few observations...
*That the Science Reporter was a Person of Colour and that this shows that RTD is racist, because she was cross at the Doctor and Donna at the end, and she was played for comedy, and she "wasn't good enough to be a companion".
I'm not really sure how to react to that.
- they're reading too much into it, she was actually a good character
- no matter what anyone says, RTD isn't going to change or learn from his mistakes, well, not unless someone very close to him calls him on it
- it's a possible interpretation, but I'd rather look on the bright side.
*That RTD is prejudiced against fat people.
Well, of course. Our entire society is prejudiced against fat people. If they can't pick on blacks, women, gays or disabled people, who's left? Fat people, and religious people.
Can anyone tell me if there's ever been a positive portrayal of religion in Doctor Who? Or of a fat person?
I can only think of two:
- K'an Po and his mystic Buddhism in "Planet of the Spiders"
- Foon and her husband in "Voyage of the Damned", but note that they were being ostracised by the other passengers, and I don't think it was just because they had won the voyage as a prize.
*That RTD hates mothers, Donna's mother being an example, Jackie being another.
Well, the main thing I noticed was how similar Donna and her mother were.
*That Donna's grandfather was the newspaper-seller in "Voyage of the Damned"
I hadn't noticed that. I'm not sure whether they're supposed to be the same character or not.
*That maybe the Rose we saw is Evil.
I doubt it. Rose looks sad, not evil. And they would never do that to RTD's Mary Sue.
*That the batshippers are going to be making this season All About Rose, and that Donna will leave.
I hope not. Though it's a reasonable point that it could be difficult to get Catherine Tate for more than one season. Though if next year is only going to be a few specials, they might have her for that, or they might do one-off holding-pattern ones like the last couple of Christmas Specials have been.
And I really don't care what the loony fringe of fandom thinks.
A few more observations:
- the Doctor tossed the sonic pen into a trash bin; someone could find it. I was actually expecting Donna to go back and fish it out of the bin, but she didn't. 8-(
- so, will Donna's mother find the car keys?
- I'm glad that Donna's grandfather knows where she's gone.
- "The Shadow Proclamation" appears to be a group of persons rather than a document. Hmmm. This is the second or third mention of "The Shadow Proclamation", the first being in "Rose", and I'm not sure if there was a mention by Rose in "The Christmas Invasion".
- mysterious!vanishing!Rose is probably only going to turn up in episodes set on present-day Earth. So no Rose next week.
- I wonder if they're going to bring up the Bad Wolf stuff in connection with Rose?
