Kathryn A. (![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
kerravonsen) wrote2006-10-07 09:36 pm
kerravonsen) wrote2006-10-07 09:36 pm
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Thinking about Doomsday again
Well, they showed "Doomsday" tonight on the local TV... so that's the last of Who until I fire up the bittorrent at Christmas. On this second viewing, some further thoughts...
I think the Jackie-Pete reunion is my favourite bit. And the Dalek and Cybermen snark at the start.
One thing I didn't notice first time around was that it was the Doctor who had decided that Rose had to go to the alt-universe. Arbitrarily. Without asking her, or anybody. Where does he get off on being heartbroken about it, then?
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aizain and I were discussing when brainstorming about Incongruity was that part of the point of the story was the difference between being predictable and being known, being understood. I kept on bringing up the word "love" and he kept on bringing up the word "respect".
Thing is, how on earth, in "Doomsday", could the Tenth Doctor claim to love Rose, if he didn't respect her? And yet he isn't respecting her, not when he's making these decisions for her. Sure, he can make decisions for other people to save their lives, that's reasonable, but if he can stay in this universe, there's no life-threatening reason for her to have to go.
Of course, he thinks that Pete and Jackie are better off together (and he's probably right) and he thinks that Rose ought to be with them -- why? Enforced domesticity is not really life-affirming, is it?
Of course, in this season, Rose has hardly been a poster-child for mature behaviour. And the Tenth Doctor has been, yes, arrogant. Repeatedly. (Bah! He needs Methos to give him a good laughing at)
I think the Jackie-Pete reunion is my favourite bit. And the Dalek and Cybermen snark at the start.
One thing I didn't notice first time around was that it was the Doctor who had decided that Rose had to go to the alt-universe. Arbitrarily. Without asking her, or anybody. Where does he get off on being heartbroken about it, then?
One of the things that
aizain and I were discussing when brainstorming about Incongruity was that part of the point of the story was the difference between being predictable and being known, being understood. I kept on bringing up the word "love" and he kept on bringing up the word "respect".Thing is, how on earth, in "Doomsday", could the Tenth Doctor claim to love Rose, if he didn't respect her? And yet he isn't respecting her, not when he's making these decisions for her. Sure, he can make decisions for other people to save their lives, that's reasonable, but if he can stay in this universe, there's no life-threatening reason for her to have to go.
Of course, he thinks that Pete and Jackie are better off together (and he's probably right) and he thinks that Rose ought to be with them -- why? Enforced domesticity is not really life-affirming, is it?
Of course, in this season, Rose has hardly been a poster-child for mature behaviour. And the Tenth Doctor has been, yes, arrogant. Repeatedly. (Bah! He needs Methos to give him a good laughing at)
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I felt cheated that she didn't die.
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