Jan. 22nd, 2014 07:01 pm
kerravonsen: cover of "The Blue Sword": Fantasy (Fantasy)
[personal profile] kerravonsen
I just went to see Frozen with my niece V. It was more enjoyable than I expected. I am certainly going to be tracking down the soundtrack; some of the music was just awesome.

While it was "inspired by" the story "The Snow Queen", it was more like someone said "let's write a story from the point of view of the Snow Queen" and then started from that point, ignoring everything else in the original fairy tale. Which I think actually made it a better story, because it was it's own story. That was a relief to me, because I was afraid that it would be a pale and fractured imitation of the original, and it wasn't. That also meant that, while there were certain tropes (if you are a Royal Couple, DO NOT TRAVEL BY SHIP) which were predictable, other things were not so predictable.

The only things that were retained from the original were:
* there was a Snow Queen
* it was set in a country which resembled somewhere in Northern Europe
* there was a friendly reindeer
* someone's heart was frozen and true love thawed it

One of my favourite things was that the strongest love in the movie, the one that saved everything, was NOT romantic love at all. It was the love between the sisters. YES!

I admit, I was totally surprised that Prince Hans turned out to be... not what he appeared to be. I think part of the reason why I wasn't expecting it was because there was already an obvious villain, the Duke of Weselton. And also because Hans did things one would expect of a hero - he was compassionate towards the populace, he went off to rescue Anna, he stopped the bad guys from killing Elsa... I really was not expecting his volte-face.

Mind you he DID pay attention to some of the Evil Overlord rules, while ignoring others.

He almost succeeded with:

#8 After I kidnap the beautiful princess, we will be married immediately in a quiet civil ceremony, not a lavish spectacle in three weeks' time during which the final phase of my plan will be carried out.
#29 I will dress in bright and cheery colors, and so throw my enemies into confusion.

He failed with:

#6 I will not gloat over my enemies' predicament before killing them.
#13 All slain enemies will be cremated, or at least have several rounds of ammunition emptied into them, not left for dead at the bottom of the cliff. The announcement of their deaths, as well as any accompanying celebration, will be deferred until after the aforementioned disposal.

Another thing which was nicely subtle was Elsa, her powers, her reaction to them, and other people's reaction to them. Her parents' reaction was understandable, but counterproductive; while not overtly fearful, their reactions still had fear underneath; to hide herself, to be afraid of herself. Fear, which was the very thing the troll Elder had warned them of. For how could she learn to control her powers if she never used them?

Then we have the Duke of Weselton being so very quick in calling Elsa a monster. And being attacked made Elsa attack back. How many monsters are made so by others' expectations? Yet Elsa was still good at heart, still not quite setting foot on the dark path; not ruthless enough to value her own survival above all others. But it was interesting to see the potential for that; I could see her going evil if, say, someone else had killed her sister Anna, and she went down the path of revenge. Instead, she nearly killed her sister herself, and it was pain and despair which wracked her. It was on a knife-edge at the end; for it could have happened differently: Anna dead, Elsa executed, Hans king... would he have made a good king? I mean, obviously he was despicable, but we also saw that if it lay in his self-interest to appear to be a good king, he would do so. Mind you, since he prematurely declared Anna dead, he'd still be in a bit of a sticky situation...

And as I kept saying to V, "You can't execute the rightful monarch for treason!"

Date: 2014-01-22 03:53 pm (UTC)
foxfirefey: A picture of GIR. (gir)
From: [personal profile] foxfirefey
Oh man oh man so the deluxe soundtrack (that's on Spotify) has a whole bunch of goodies like outtake songs that didn't make it into the movie! So you can kind of see slightly alternate AU versions of Frozen. For instance, one alternative love long between Hans and Anna gives better forewarnings, so they chose on purpose to make Hans as upright as possible. Which I think is a good choice, since the whole idea is somebody can act REALLY wonderful for a short period of time even if they are not!

Date: 2014-01-22 09:30 pm (UTC)
foxfirefey: A seal making a happy face. (happyface)
From: [personal profile] foxfirefey
No--I think it's on Amazon and iTunes.

Date: 2014-01-22 10:44 pm (UTC)
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I downloaded it from iTunes. It has the background music, karaoke versions and a lot more(including the completely unnecessary Demi Lovato version of Let it Go they recorded for the pop charts).

Date: 2014-01-22 10:57 pm (UTC)
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Although it was a step in the right direction, I found myself let down by the sloppy storytelling, the bad editing, and the lack of proper focus on Elsa. Elsa gets moments of angst but we aren't with her long enough for her to become a real character.

Date: 2014-01-22 06:29 pm (UTC)
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I think this is something of a golden age for cartoon films. The best of them are far too good to be restricted to a child audience. The reviews of "Frozen" were so good that I went and saw it with a friend, and greatly enjoyed it.

Date: 2014-01-22 11:40 pm (UTC)
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A monarch can't be executed for treason, for killing the heir apparent, That bit of logic escaped me too.

Hans was definitely the surprise villain of the movie. I had just expected it not to work because they weren't truly in love.

I did like the act of true love that worked.

Date: 2014-01-23 12:09 am (UTC)
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Yes a Monarch can. See Charles I.

Date: 2014-01-24 12:20 am (UTC)
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Charles I didn't kill his son, the circumstances were rather different.

Date: 2014-01-23 05:05 am (UTC)
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i haven't seen it, so i'm not reading your review, but my boss saw it and was really impressed with the soundtrack and played me some of it. :)

Date: 2014-01-23 12:41 pm (UTC)
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I just saw it too, and like you enjoyed it more than I expected to. And I too failed to note the plot twist. I saw two boyfriends alright, but reasoned that Kristof would melt Elsa's heart.

I love Kristen Bell (want more Veronica Mars!) Coes anyone know if she sang her own songs?

I thought at first that Olaf would be the usual annoying Disney comic relief, but the audience roared laughing when he sang about Summer.

Hans would probably have made a good king. Elsa might want to look up his older brothers.

"You can't execute the rightful monarch for treason!" I'll let King Charles know...

Date: 2014-01-24 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
According to the soundtrack Kristin sings all her songs. It looks like all the actors sang their own songs, although Disney has released the Pop version of "Let it Go" redone with Demi Lovato.

Date: 2014-01-24 02:46 am (UTC)
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Frozen might be my favorite movie from the past year (barring, perhaps, Gravity)... for many of the reasons you mention, but especially for Elsa's storyline, the subtlety of it, the truth of it.

I've had "Let It Go" stuck in my head since I saw the film two weeks ago. :)

(And yes, I did buy the Deluxe Soundtrack right after coming out of the theater, which I don't think I've ever done before!)

Date: 2014-01-25 09:43 am (UTC)
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I've heard a lot of good things about this movie. It's still animated, it's still Disney, which some people will like while others will tolerate it for the sake of the kiddos - but it does seem to work with tropes rather than just mimic them, if that distinction makes sense. Glad you enjoyed it, in any event.


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