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I did sleep better this time, due to pushing the doona down so it only covered my legs. That appeared to get the temperature balance right. I was a little later to breakfast this time, so I missed both the 9am and 10am panels. Oh well. It was delicious.

Presentation: Archaeoastronomy: Eclipses, Monsters and Kings
Interesting stuff. When is a goat not a goat? When it's a constellation.

Guest of Honour Speech: Ambelin Kwaymullina
Words fail me. I was crying near the end. So much said.
On stories of SF colonisation of other planets: "We have lived those stories. I know how they end." The apocalypse has happened: it is our history.
The vulnerable are the most important people of all.
Not two separate circles, but intersecting circles, where we can meet.
"We defend the integrity and dignity of everybody, or we defend the integrity and dignity of nobody."
"What are your dreams? Your dreams for this world? If you never had any more power or resources, what would you do for your dreams?"
"The question for us, is how do we create the future of our dreams and not of our nightmares?"

Panel: Created Languages, Borrowed Languages, Stolen Languages
Wasn't really about created languages, but that didn't surprise me, due to things said in the pre-panel discussion over email. It was really about cultural appropriation in regard to languages in SFF. What with various things said by Ambelin over the course of the con, I had already changed my perspective on this. It was a good and interesting discussion, though there was one guy in the audience that... I don't think he really got it. What was "it"? Well, if you think you're borrowing language for your world-building, you're probably stealing it anyway. If you're borrowing language you're probably borrowing culture, and you can't take this bit from over here and that bit from over there, because it doesn't make sense, since language and culture are inextricably intertwined. So one has to do HEAPS of research just in order to write one small bit. So while it may seem like it's Much Too Hard to invent your own language, and we can't all be Tolkien (at which I interjected "I want to be Tolkien!") if you're going to get it right, there's going to be an awful lot of hard work either way. Just grabbing random words from somewhere else and putting them in your story a shortcut for making your culture (or aliens) Exotic. Not good writing. ALWAYS TREAT OTHER CULTURES WITH RESPECT! (I put this in allcaps because it was repeated quite often.)

Panel: Mixed Media - the World of Tie-ins & Adaptations
This was the panel immediately after the languages panel in the same room; I hadn't originally intended to go to this one, but I stuck around for it. Topics included: some changes are needed for adaptations, such as for a change in medium, but sometimes the decisions seem arbitrary and go contrary to the characterisation or the spirit of the plot. For example, character ages in Game of Thrones. Question of whether Splinter of the Mind's Eye was the first tie-in novel (as distinct from novelization, of which there were numerous earlier examples, e.g. Star Trek and Doctor Who).

Panel: Writing Fanfic
My last panel; also my only panel with the other GoH, Jim C Hines. There really wasn't enough time to cover everything we wanted to talk about... someone suggested before the panel that we take a drink every time someone mentioned Cassandra Clair, 50 Shades of Grey, or Shakespeare. Yes, they all ended up being mentioned. Plus there was a drinking moment for Marion Zimmer Bradley. We touched briefly on a number of things: mailing lists, LJ, AO3, fanzines, authors who started in fanfic and got published, filing off the serial numbers, published authors' attitudes towards fanfic, welcoming newbies, delicate flowers, honest reviews, and why do we write fanfic in the first place? A couple of the audience members were new to all this; possibly would be a good idea to have a "Fanfic 101" panel next time as well as a general fanfic panel.

Event: Cosplay Iron Chef
This was, as one might expect, a competition with a secret ingredient, but what had to be made was a costume rather than a meal. This was amusing and full of gaffa tape. There were two secret ingredients: something blue, and something triangular. The costumes which the three contestants created were:
* an alien princess from a water-tribe
* a post-apocalyptic Batman
* a pseudo-grecian Wonder Woman
Kudos to the contestants.

No, I did not go to the awards night. Attempted to sleep. Did not succeed.

back to Saturday
on to Monday

Date: 2014-06-09 07:24 am (UTC)
vilakins: The word chocolate in many different languages (chocolate)
From: [personal profile] vilakins
Created Languages, Borrowed Languages, Stolen Languages:
[nods] It intrigued and then rather annoyed me that Tamora Pierce used Indonesian language (Bahasa Indonesia) and culture to a certain extent in her Trickster series, and she also uses it in the Beka Cooper series when she uses "secret" commands to a dog. I suppose most people wouldn't have recognised it, but it felt odd to me, esp in the Beka series, that it was never acknowledged or explained.

The whole conference sounds wonderful!

Date: 2014-06-11 07:00 am (UTC)
vilakins: The word chocolate in many different languages (chocolate)
From: [personal profile] vilakins
I guessed she thought no one would know Bahasa Indonesia, which is a bit insulting to the large number of people who speak it.

Theobroma backfired for me too as I knew it was chocolate. [deploys icon]

Date: 2014-06-09 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Considering Tolkein borrowed from the Norse and Germanic cultures, even he didn't invent a language wholesale either.

Stealing is always quicker :¬) I can't help wondering what some writers reaction would be if you described their appropriation as language fan fiction?

Date: 2014-06-09 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I must admit to a fascination with created languages starting from reading Edgar Rice Burrroughs Tarzan in comic form when I was about 7 or 8 years old.

I also flabbergasted my OH and daughter by working out what was being said in "Darmok" before the reveal.

Date: 2014-06-09 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Sounds like some of the panels were just my thing...


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